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CIEIRMusic
Amateur Filmmaker, Author, Cartoonist, Musician and defictionalizer (Finding truth in fiction), mostly here to promote my music to indie developers that need it.

S.T. Musician @CIEIRMusic

Age 33, Male

Part Time Musician,

High School Graduate/Self Taug

Parts Unknown

Joined on 12/13/20

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Comments

....damn.

Go fuck yourself. You try to blame and guilt trip the people who take the time to listen to your music by saying they don't do enough. Do you know how stupid that sounds? You cry about not getting more attention, but in the same paragraph, you admit to only starting to promote your work out more. That isn't a smart business move, especially in a 4 year period.

Maybe more people would interact with you if you weren't such an asshole in a majority of your interactions. People aren't going to interact with an artist who treats their potential customers like shit.

Take a break from the internet if you have to reset

If you actually bothered to read my whole post you'd know the words. "With some few exceptions." Clearly you didn't and instead cherry picked the parts where apparently you think I insulted you personally you self entitled sack of shit. Those select few I hold in the highest respects, because they did try to help me in anyway they can. One once donated supporter money to me in hopes it would get me out there more. A few others collaborated with me on various upcoming projects, which have yet to be realized. All of which I am forever grateful, when they do come to fruition. Until then, I am pretty much on my fucking own and it would have helped if those who took the time to listen to my music at the very least talked to people about it. Which literally costs nothing but a few seconds of time. With the exception of those few, literally the bulk of my fans either listen or download without so much as the common fucking courtesy of informing me why. Whether they want to use it for a project or simply like listening to it.

Respect is a two-way street and I've shown my fair share with only little to nothing in return. I work very hard to provide entertainment for people and fucks like you act like you own artists like us. You make me sick. Also, I don't see you anywhere on my fans list, so clearly none of that fucking concerns you.

One other thing, the customer is not always right. Go fuck yourself.

@CIEIRMusic LOL you're calling me self entitled? Pot, meet kettle! If I was offended by anything you've said, I would have said worse things to you. The overall vent came off as very condescending and manipulative towards your fans. It's not their job to buy or comment on every piece of music and spread it. People listen to lots of music without commenting on it unless they have a reason too. Think of it like scouting on NG. It's frowned on if you ask to be scouted so people post and work on there craft in order to be scouted.
You contradicted the original post by saying you provide entertainment for people. Make up your mind, do you make entertainment for yourself or other people?
The customer may not always be right but they are the thing that make or break a career. You should be counting yourself lucky that there people that want to listen to your stuff.

You couldn't do worse things to me if you had the ability to punch me in the face through your screen. There is literally nothing you can do to me, that the world, this curse and life itself hasn't already done. And yes, you are self-entitled, I did my homework on you, you do a lot worse bitching and complaining to others talking about how much you don't care about what they think who they are or what they do, yet clearly you care enough to bitch and complain about it.

Let me tell you something about fandom in general. Do you think stuff like Music, Movies and other forms of media, just get famous out of nowhere? No, they got famous, because so many people that claimed to like the work did everything they could to keep that work alive. If fans want more, it's their job to show how much they want more. Star Wars kept on going because so many fans spent their time and money hoping they'd continue where Return of The Jedi left off and now look at it. While divisive among said fans, it's an even bigger powerhouse of a franchise than it was back in 1977. Why? Because said fans loved it that much. The fans didn't simply just watch the movie on TV, they went to the theater, they bought the merchandise and even bought every version of the home videos they could get their hands on so they can make a game about the differences between the Theatrical cut and The Special Editions that followed. Most importantly they told their friends, family and anyone else they could find so that more people could see the fucking thing. Doesn't just apply to media. Even Sports is no exception. Those sponsors Athlete's make money off of, wouldn't have money to pay them if their fans didn't buy the shit they plug. You say it's not a fan's job? Dude, then you must be a really shitty fan of everything.

As for what I said there is no contradiction Word Twister. There's a difference between making and providing. I make entertainment for myself, I provide people with it.

You should be counting yourself lucky that I'm letting you talk this long, I heard what you did to ngman7. All you ever done is bully that person every chance you get and you think you're entitled to call me out on my behaviour? FUUUUUCK YOOOOU!! You claim I'm manipulative, yet all you ever done is everything in your power to try to get this guy to quit NG or drive him to suicide if you're lucky. I suggest you either back the fuck off or I'll make you back off by blocking you.

@SolaceMansion One other thing. If the fans really thought I was wrong about what I said, that counter would be going down by now. It's still at 140. So...pft on you. It's called a test of character and conviction, try it some time.

Holy shit man. At first I was like, I'd love to support you but I can't afford to pay for music in my broke ass college state right now. I sure hope you believe me, and I'm sure you do, I mean, you support my tracks more than I do yours, and I feel I owe you back. Solace is right in some regard, but you are right too. Making music, especially if it is as a work or job instead of a hobby (like me), is hard and trying to make money off independent publishing is tough, because not everyone is willing to buy tracks, for economic reasons or otherwise. I've had my fair share of ignorance too, and trust me, it's easy to become the jealous "green-eyed monster" when something goes wrong, especially here on Newgrounds. I don't think you vented toward the innocent people that try to help you, but rather the people that choose to not help you for selfish reason. I do understand how people can misinterpret it though, because your wording was so vague. No offense to you, Cieir, of course. I hope more people can support you in the future, and I will of course continue to support your work. Just don't let rage consume you, alright?

None taken. You at least understand what I was going through.