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Dark Comedy 101: When is it crossing the line?

Posted by CIEIRMusic - September 29th, 2022


Some of the best comedies, especially the dark ones, have little to no filter whatsoever. No subject was Taboo, no word was considered unfunny no matter how offensive it can be. However, sometimes, people often go too far. They either make fun of a high tension hot topic, one too many times or sometimes even just once is enough to turn a laughing crowd into an Angry Mob. As shown with these guys. Whether it's a Macabre Joke gone too far, slurs spoken out loud for nothing more than ironic aesops or plain old shock value or the things beyond that, in which nothing is off limits, such as shows like South Park, Rick and Morty, Simpsons and the like, dark comedy has come along way, but without it's fair share of problems.


For example. No subject is taboo. You could be the most tolerant person on the planet and yet if you thought it was funny, you'd either say a slur or make fun of a topic that normally should not be made fun of. (Again South Park had a lot of mileage with that one.) Yet while you get a good laugh, you don't read the room. Some agree and think it's funny, others don't get it and there are some who not only think the comedy is unfunny, but treat you as if you're a horrible person for saying or doing that.


Now I'm not saying this is cause to eliminate Dark Comedy. Oh no. If anything it makes us appreciate Dark Comedy more as it often relates to the most depressing moments of our lives and helps us find humour in them.


Now to be a successful Dark Comedian, without plummeting after one mistake too many, you need to follow these simple guidelines.


  1. Talk fast and precise. Which applies to all forms of Comedy. If you stammer or stutter, no one would find the joke funny. The have to keep up with you for at best 5 minutes and at worst an hour.
  2. As long as it feels funny, it's funny. People joke about the darkest topics, yet find some good wholesome (Yes I am using that word right.), humour in it. Mostly because we are confronted by shocking moments for the sake of laughter. The Addams Family was the Grand Monarch of this one. As everything the family said or did, was meant to make us do double takes. One shocking. One funny.
  3. Use a persona. Rather than go out there yourself, create a person that befits the comedy. Even in this world of overtly sensitive people, it's been proven many times, that an audience resonates more with a character than a real person. While most light hearted comedians are the exception, the guideline is especially prominent in Dark Comedy. Character like Morticia Addams, Beetlejuice or any Stephen King Villain, have often proved to be very shocking yet very entertaining.
  4. Find a quick exit after the Act. This is both for showmanship and to escape anyone you pissed off.
  5. Use what you know. Sometimes the darkest of comedic moments can be summed up by past experience.
  6. Read the room. It's important to know what audience you expect.
  7. Have fun.

While these are guidelines I try to follow, they aren't set in stone. Everyone has their own unique comedic ways along with their own rules and guidelines. What's yours?


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pretty useful info. dark comedy is great when done correctly but cringe when done badly

Oh ya. Though some times even the cringe stuff can be funny. There's a dark comedy horror movie called Re-Animator. Based on the book by H.P. Lovecraft, also a horror comedy. There were a lot of stuff that happened in it that wouldn't fly today. Yet it keeps getting funnier every single time I see it.

hm... am i doing good with the dark comedy on my animated series?

Which series is that?

@CIEIRMusic i am an animator, i have a project by which i do all the animation, the writing, the voice action, production, etc, etc... you can check it out here at newgrounds at my movies or on my youtube channel, reviews and honest constructive criticism are always welcome! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQzTzdxELP3zPMdZXWAgzhg/videos

Ok. Any recommendations on where to start?

@CIEIRMusic i would recommend starting by the first ep by which is 53 seconds long, it's an experimental poem like intro https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/844445
then the promo of my first full lenght ep it's 23m44s but if you don't feel like watching all that you can skip to around 10m00s by which we have some cool action https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/842385

Well having watched the 53 second intro. I will say, it's very dark, scary and downright disturbing, so you did a damn good job. Only negative criticism I have, is a mere nitpick, but the subtitles were too fast. I had to pause it to read them. Other than that great so far.

Having watched your 23 minute promo, I can honestly say. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH!?

Ok in terms of technical stuff, the animation is smooth, there are some funny moments, some disturbing moments and all those random images throw me off guard. IT took till said fight scene for me to figure out you were doing magical girl parodies, specifically Sailor Moon. The only thing I kinda don't find cool is the main character's perverted bondness with her mother, but other than that, the comedy is solid, the disturbing stuff is timed right. Not something I would watch myself, but seeing how you got a lot of votes and faves on this, odds are you may have an audience somewhere. Adult Swim fans would especially find this fun to watch.

Having said that the only criticism I have is that it's limited by the language barrier. Don't get me wrong, it's cool each character has their own uniquely colour coded subtitles, but I think in the near future you should have this along with the rest of your series dubbed so it can reach more audience. Not just English, but other languages too.

@CIEIRMusic thanks! i'm glad to see a review like that. Dubbing on other languages is a lot of work, recording, listening to the takes, lip sync, since i do everything myself i gotta handle tasks and time strategically in order to don't take a very long time between animaton releases. I still got a few months to see if this cartoon will work, people who watch it compares to the old school adult cartoons from mtv or adult swim. Thank you for your review!

No problem. This may help a little regarding Dubbing. Nothing big, but a few things professional VAs do when dubbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL7Zk_YldYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLeDLAoDts

Quality is shitty, but the voices are still comprehensible on these ones. It's Johnny Yong Bosch and Stephanie Sheh on how they do the dubbing for Eureka Seven.

@CIEIRMusic yeah i do some of these stuff, i don't have a director , i'm the voice actor and the director lol, but i had recorded with a director before, it's kinda annoying "again, do it again, do it more like that, do that it again but like that" i'm not a very good voice actor. I eat an apple and/or a piece of ginger root before dubbing, i act a little crazy while voice acting the character, the metal fiendish like vocals are fun to act while doing