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CIEIRMusic
Amateur Filmmaker, Author, Cartoonist, Musician and defictionalizer (Finding truth in fiction), mostly here to promote my music to indie developers that need it.

S.T. Musician @CIEIRMusic

Age 33, Male

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High School Graduate/Self Taug

Parts Unknown

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First of many promo pages for fans and other users.

Posted by CIEIRMusic - February 22nd, 2022


As most of you know I did a vent piece a couple days ago:

https://cieirmusic.newgrounds.com/news/post/1250715


One of my main gripes was that I felt my fans weren't doing enough to help me regarding me moving forward with this. A user who shall remain nameless, commented accusing me of using this to manipulate and guilt trip you all in hopes I'd become successful financially. That is way far from the truth, I was mostly angry because for one I felt like there was a curse put on me, preventing me from moving forward. And barring that, I felt that maybe, fans should do more on general principle of being fans. It also didn't help that I felt, like many of them didn't think they had to support me because in their eyes I was giving them free stuff. I held that anger for too long that I had to let it out. Hence why it was a vent, rather than a rant. The thing is, whether it's a sporting event, media or any form of entertainment that got famous due to a collective common interest, people fail to realize it's the fans that ultimately provide the things these performers need to get that fame and fortune. Take sports for example. All those sponsors you see in arenas or endorsed by the likes of say LaBron James. It is true, that they provide them the paychecks, however, said sponsors wouldn't have been able to afford to pay them if people didn't buy their products. Everything from the Gatorade you drink, to the Nikes you wear, doesn't just support their company, it helps them pay their endorsers. But that said, that's just the financial side of things.


The true way to really get forward, to gain enough people to gain said fame and fortune is simple word of mouth. You like a movie? You tell your friends and family about it and they either buy tickets to see it or buy the home video. Same applies to other forms of entertainment. The good thing about that is that it doesn't cost the person spreading said word anything save for time and that time is relatively short. A few seconds to a few minutes, depending on how you like to explain the medium you like. It doesn't even have to be constant, all you'd need to do is just take a few seconds of your time to talk about the mediums you like and where they came from.


I myself have dabbled in it in many ways, because on top of promoting my own work, I wanted to make sure those that don't get noticed often do and those that are already noticed a lot, are kept alive. CIEIR has always been about helping people after all.


The way I do it the most was to create forum topics for both art and music so I could do a mass promo in hopes that others would in turn spread word about the music and art I happen to like:

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1462522

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1464865


However I feel that maybe it's not enough. So every now and then, I will do a shout out to a few fans and fellow artists of mine. I will tag their names and reasons why I think their work should be supported.


First and foremost, you get to meet the select few I hold in high regard:


@ethanblair

This person has been very supportive of me for a long time. And while he only has a few things on his profile, he makes up for not just in quality, but for being an overall good person.


@RipCatcha

This kid was the one who gave me my first collab when I was starting out here. And I still believe to this day he created the best remix for my song Creeping March of War.


@shintsukimi205

On top of being a great collaborator, his art is very relatable to me and helped me keep going. It was also his blog shout out where I was mentioned that inspired me to do a promo like this.


@rocknight1991

This kid never gave up on me and her art is worth encouraging. She is also the one that inspired me to create Light Harmony.


I may have forgotten some, but I'm sure I can find them again. These people among most, I hold in high regard, because they try to help me and I in turn try to find ways to return the favor. These are not just my fans, nor am I just fans of them. They are my friends. That being said, much of the reason why I never mentioned them was because I did not wish them to be harassed, due to their association with me. If anyone, I know goes after these people, you'll have me to deal with. So tread lightly.


Others I know have lost their accounts or left for some reason or another:


DJElectricJes, I don't care what they say to slam you, you're not a pedo. You just made a huge mistake, that you have tried to atone for since. If your girlfriend believes in you, then so do I.


LilAngelaDecibel, you are a talented person, who's only crime was that you are a magnet for drama. But it's not all your fault. People push you in many ways and I hope one day you come back with a fresh start.


KrunoGaming, your games are fun and addicting and it's a damn shame you're gone.


Last but not least is what I call the Flavour of The Post. People I've come across in art, music, games and the like, who have a real great talent and I believe should be encouraged to go further:


@LiteralHat

On top of having a great style, I think LiteralHat's recent animation is beyond Newgrounds. I think if it was entered into the Academy it would at the very least have a shot at being nominated for Best Original Animated Short. That's right, I think it's Oscar Worthy.


@boza44

He has great range and takes inspiration for his, but my personal fave is his digital Jazz. Which I reccomend you listen to.


@TheMusicalManiac

Just recently the Tank Tribune put one of her songs on the phonograph and I believe it's well worthy of that. She has a great style of video game music.


@dj-steve-francis

His 432hz style inspired me to better tune my music.


Now if anyone I know feels left out I apologize, but rest assured, you will get your shout out one day.


Now this only took me a few minutes because I was mass promoting. Yet I'd do it again and again if it helps these people get ahead. I'm not a competing artist, the only people I would ever try to step on, would be those I dislike on a personal level and even then it would take more than simple insults to prompt me to do that. I want to give people the chance that I rarely get myself and all I ask in return is for it to no longer be rare. I know if I can get far enough I could succeed in this, but I get nowhere without the people that support me in one way or another. I make my art for me, but I provide you guys the opportunity to look or listen and judge for yourself to see whether or not I am the only one that likes the work. All it takes is word of mouth. Or in this case text Lol.


Stay tuned for more content.


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Comments

Thank you so much.

I read your last one, and from reading this one I can see you have very much improved your way of thinking. I think with your last post you became rageful at the people who choose not to support you for selfish reason or personal choice and just well, like I said before, became the "green-eyed monster." From this news post I can trust and tell that you've improved, calmed down, took a breath, and are inspired by people all the time, you just get insecure because of other people rising up, while others stay still. I thank you for your shoutout and truly I do not appreciate your support enough. I really do mean that, I don't deserve all the attention I've gotten, as it should rather go to you and others. You will rise up one day, just as you've helped me get frontpaged many times before, and surely the others have gotten frontpaged thanks to your support. You truly deserve more than you know, and I completely understand becoming easily jealous. It's a human flaw, a lot of people suffer under it (including myself) and I'm really happy you continue supporting the people you do because you feel its right. Just keep cool and keep making music. I'll continue to support and like the music you'll always make!

Not so much jealousy, I treat not moving forward like being stuck in mud and slowly sinking while everyone else is passing by. In real life if someone just passed by someone sinking in mud without helping them out of it, they'd be considered a monster, because they pretty much passed by and let someone die without so much as calling others for help. That said, I may have gone too far in my anger, but I needed to vent everything out, otherwise it would have killed me holding it in.

That being said, the jerk that was slamming me over the last post, acted as if I didn't care about my fans, nor was I appreciative of the help I did get. Both of which isn't true. I appreciate any help that comes my way. Even something as simple as a shout out. Only reason why I refused to listen to his points was because he was a bully. Not to me, but to a lot of other people. Any time I get into an argument with someone, I look them up. Mainly to see if they are worth fighting. I may be aggessive and prone to rage, that people would consider me a bully, but I fucking hate bullies so anyone that has had a history of bullying others on this site gets no floor to argue with me.

That being said two things. One, I really do appreciate your support and while your humbleness and modesty is endearing, don't say you don't deserve this. I know for a fact that you are a hell of a better musician than me, that you have a better chance at moving forward and I will continue to support and nurture that for as long as I can.

@CIEIRMusic I'm sorry you've had to deal with an unfortunate share of bullies. All I can say on that really is, just ignore them as best you can. It's not worth arguing to a brick wall, and emotionally I don't think its worth it. I mean, I don't know if its just me, but I just feel tired after being bullied. Either way, thank you again for your support. I don't deserve as loyal a fan as you, and you deserve so much more than you think. Don't take it hard on yourself and stay cool <3 Thanks again for being a friend.

Eh. Part of why I hate them on top of dealing with my fair share is that they can easily corrupt their victims into sinking to their level. I used to be one of them in an attempt to get them to back off, but like them the power I got from it corrupted me. I went from going after people who deserve it to simply going after people. After a huge wake up call I managed to get my act together long enough to graduate High School. I was dead set on moving forward when bad things started to happen to me. Causing my life to go down a 9 year downward Spiral that I only recently got out of. Now my goal is to try to get ahead as much as possible.

@CIEIRMusic Good for you man. I wish you luck in you endeavors and I will support you as much as I am able to!

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